My Crunchy Zen Era
Welcome to My Crunchy Zen Era — we're not exactly sure what it means, but we're figuring it out.
It started when I asked my friends: How do you create a life you love? Then it turned into a podcast full of a little fun, a little humor, and a whole lot of curiosity. Each week we dive into a fresh topic with a guest, exploring everything from everyday joys to life’s bigger questions. Whether we’re laughing, learning, or just letting things unfold, this show is your weekly dose of lighthearted inspiration.
Hosted by Nicole Swisher.
My Crunchy Zen Era
Mindfulness Trends, AI Dating, and Dead Bodies with Phillip Headrick
Is silent walking the mindfulness trend we all need now? Who can really say... But Phillip Headrick might try in his return to My Crunchy Zen Era with host, Nicole Swisher. In this attempt at a reflective episode, Nicole and Phillip take on:
- Listener comments and questions!
- Sunday routines and related meltdowns.
- Yet more irrational fears... the dead bodies are real.
- Artificial intelligence relationships.
- Traveling etiquette.
- The perfect salsa update.
Join us for this meandering conversation that touches on everything from genealogy to safe rooms. If you've enjoyed listening, please leave a rating and review—we'd love to discuss your comments in a future episode!
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Speaker 2:Hello, what's something?
Speaker 1:crunchier than you've done lately.
Speaker 2:All right. Have you heard of silent walking Stick with me?
Speaker 1:No yeah.
Speaker 2:I hadn't either. So you know, I was trying to do the positive affirmations thing and I couldn't do that really well. And there's this trend that I saw, and it's essentially silent exercise and the theory is like you spend so much time with something in your ear, listening, focusing on on something else, and you're not focusing on yourself. And I'm trying to walk, exercise, and all that without any type of airpod, earbud or anything. Very difficult, by the way.
Speaker 1:I I do that with at work often like I go outside and I just leave it behind because I need to just like rest.
Speaker 2:And you find it helpful.
Speaker 1:I do Quite a bit.
Speaker 2:I think it's good. It's just I spend a lot of time, probably not helping myself, but just like random thoughts what's she wearing? Why are they doing that?
Speaker 1:It's not really self-help stuff, but I'm trying it, so you're supposed to do self-help.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're supposed to just be introspective. Yeah, you're supposed to just be introspective.
Speaker 1:What's going?
Speaker 2:on with you. How was your day? Kind of asking yourself questions what are you planning for, what are you excited about? That kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't do that part, so maybe I'll have to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, start. I've had four, five days of it now and so far so good. I'm proud of myself, I like that. So if you see me with AirPods, just rip them out. Silence.
Speaker 1:I've been using corded AirPods.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's still AirPods, but because of, like, the EMF radiation stuff. Okay, so I've heard that it's better to take a break.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm doing it, the EMF stuff.
Speaker 1:That's exactly why, of course, look at my bracelets for EMF oh, I wondered, what that was they were yeah, yeah, it's a whole thing. I also have a hat.
Speaker 2:I'm all on board you're all in, yeah, all in um.
Speaker 1:So I lately have been putting iodine on my hands.
Speaker 2:All right, nicole, I'm all ears, walk me through this medical marvel.
Speaker 1:My iodine is low and I'm having a hard time getting it in my diet. So my cranial sacral lady, who is clearly a doctor, suggested getting medical iodine, you know like putting on cuts. Yeah, and just putting it on my hands and then just like letting it soak in, because things soak in through your skin.
Speaker 2:And you never wash it off.
Speaker 1:I do wash it off.
Speaker 2:How long are you waiting?
Speaker 1:Like five minutes.
Speaker 2:Have you noticed any changes in your palm, like the color of your skin or your palm?
Speaker 1:Uh-uh. No, I just envision it looked like self-tanning oil. It does look like that when it's on there, but it's not. I mean, it comes right off.
Speaker 2:So that's what I'm doing okay, yeah, how does one track that you just get blood work done again to yeah?
Speaker 1:I use function health okay, and so I go twice a year and get blood tests done that just come to my come to me, not through a doctor and then I can go to a doctor, are you pouring it on, do you? Dip it, I pour it. It's like a couple of drips.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm going to check your palms soon. Sounds good.
Speaker 1:Welcome to my Crunchy Zen Era. We're a weekly podcast filled with a little fun, a little humor and a whole lot of curiosity. My guest this week is returning Philip Hedrick.
Speaker 2:Hello Nicole, Hello again. Thank you for having me back. I'm excited for it. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1:What's your favorite way to spend a Sunday?
Speaker 2:I love brunch a Sunday brunch. I have a group of friends that we do. We rotate restaurants. You get to try some new stuff. Usually five to seven of us will do that. Go get a few drinks. I have a strict rule that my alarm goes off at 6 pm. I have to be either home or on the way home by 6.
Speaker 2:That's smart and then from 6 until whatever time I go to bed, it is Uber Eats, something different, something maybe I've been obsessed with Vietnamese lately, but in a movie or documentary, so I get a little time with friends and some one-on-one time to kind of finish out the week. That's my favorite way to do it.
Speaker 1:That sounds wonderful. Yeah, yeah, I like to take it really slow and just wake up on my own time, have a coffee, sit on the balcony, do some journaling, read my Bible, just have some quiet time, and I try not to turn on a podcast or anything, just silence. And then I just kind of hang out. Or if a friend calls, I'll do that. My time is 3 o'clock. I want to be home by three o'clock. I don't want to be talking to anyone Like, I just want to be alone.
Speaker 2:Do you have a bedtime on Sunday night?
Speaker 1:I mean I try to go be like in bed at nine. That doesn't mean I'm falling asleep, Like usually Sundays. I struggle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same.
Speaker 1:Anticipating the week yeah.
Speaker 2:And if your sunday goes off rails, does that affect your week? Because I noticed, like, if I get home late, like I'm having a good time, I get home late, it's like, oh gosh, I don't have time to do this.
Speaker 1:Then I've already started the week slightly stressed so yes, I would, I would definitely agree with that I think some of it's in my head a little bit.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely it's all this mental. I'm always saying it to him like it's fine.
Speaker 1:it's in my head a little bit.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, I'm always saying it to him like it's fine, it's one hour late, calm down.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I'm still stressed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I'm not, if I don't have like my lunch made or my clothes figured out or whatever, I feel like this week is bad.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1:We're going to do something a little different today.
Speaker 2:I love this.
Speaker 1:Yes, we have some listener comments questions, so people should definitely be sending them in in the future.
Speaker 2:The first one is from Angie in Minnesota.
Speaker 1:Hello, Angie Also known as my sister, which you'll tell from this. This is in response to irrational fears Okay. She just texted me and said also your fear of dead bodies in the rivers.
Speaker 2:Is it a fear?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a very like big fear. My grandparents lived on the Mississippi River and so sometimes we would get in the water there. My best friends also had a boat and they lived on the mississippi river and so sometimes we would get in the water there. My best friends also had a boat and they lived across the street so we would often go on the boat in the river and I wouldn't get in to the river like I would go. Like at my grandparents.
Speaker 1:You could touch the ground for a few feet in and I would stay right there, but in the middle of the river like no, because I always assumed I would jump off the boat and land on a dead body, because people die in the Mississippi oh, yeah, of course, all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the percentage chance of you at the same time jumping and landing on a floating dead body?
Speaker 1:I think is pretty high. I understand it, even if it's not a dead body. It's like a log or something. People would water ski in the Mississippi.
Speaker 2:There's nothing worse than being in a lake and something brushes your leg. It's never just like a tree limb. In my mind it's alligator crocodile dead body. Dead body, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean my cousin Catherine, calling her out on this. Let's go katherine. Katherine convinced me that there were freshwater sharks in the mississippi, and she she to this day is like. I don't remember doing that.
Speaker 2:I'm like you did it freshwater sharks do they exist I don't, I mean, I'm assuming when, like the, the saltwater freshwater meet maybe there's a couple sharks hanging out. I don't think they make it all the way up the Mississippi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I noticed the other day. I have this irrational fear of garages, like getting home into a garage, like I can't get out of my car until the garage door is completely closed, and it is always my thought is, someone slides under the door in the last two seconds and I miss it and then I'm caged in with a serial killer. So I stay in the car and we have to wait one, two, all right, let's go are you?
Speaker 1:are you watching?
Speaker 2:oh, I'm watching okay.
Speaker 1:How can you be sure you're seeing both sides?
Speaker 2:I'm doing this, but now. So I'm parking in an actual parking garage now. So now I'm back in and there's always probably someone under the car the other cars. So I open the door and I wait in case the hatchet, because they're trying to get my Achilles tendons. So I wait. If there's no hatchet, I get out and I'm constant heads on a swivel.
Speaker 1:Wasn't that like an urban legend going around?
Speaker 2:I think that really affected me, like there was somebody slicing Achilles tendons at malls.
Speaker 1:Was that an impressionable age for you that you heard this?
Speaker 2:Apparently, because many years later, I'm still pausing to get out of my car.
Speaker 1:I always think of the one at the gas station about somebody climbing into the car.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1:I do always lock my door when I'm getting gas.
Speaker 2:I lock my door everywhere. I lock my bathroom door in my place alone when I go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1:I don't do that. I mean, I'm showering.
Speaker 2:You shower with the door unlocked. Yeah, oh well, it's a perfect time for the killer to get in. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I don't sleep with my door unlocked, though.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Like I have to have my master bedroom door locked.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Which I think a lot of times now. I just like shower, though, like my master bath is in there oh, and so it's probably locked mine's separate so yeah are we crazy?
Speaker 2:oh, this is normal, this is so normal, very normal.
Speaker 1:I uh, uh. Last weekend I finally went through and changed all the simply safe batteries because, like one window had been out for a long time and then the door went out and and I was like I can't with this. But it feels like I can't keep up with the batteries in my house. But I was like my roommate was out of town and then I didn't, you know, for the first time I was alone without my dog, and you know whether or not he's haunting the house, who knows. But I just was a little jumpier and was like.
Speaker 1:I'm changing all these.
Speaker 2:I want the alarms fully on, and they definitely are now if you could build your own home, would you put a panic room in your house?
Speaker 1:what an interesting thought. Yes, I would.
Speaker 2:I think I like a glamorous panic room would be so cool.
Speaker 1:I think I would use it a lot but, like it's not that I'm always panicked, but what was that noise to? The panic room yeah, I like having a room I could go to where, like I know, there's only one way in so I I do think about, like what if an intruder came and my thought is I quickly go into my bathroom, so I'd have double locked doors, make sure, sure I have my phone, and then I'd like lean against the Good plan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the more doors to break through the better.
Speaker 1:Do you want to know something terrifying about my house? Maybe, Okay, I live in a newer subdivision. Before I moved in the house next door and the one next door that were broken into the one at the end was empty, but the one next door to mine she was there with her two kids and the intruders got all the way upstairs and she woke up to them standing over her.
Speaker 2:Done, yeah, done.
Speaker 1:And when I heard this story, that's when I got my alarm system in.
Speaker 2:Did you hear this before you moved in? No, okay.
Speaker 1:I had no idea, and my new neighbor, so that lady moved, which makes sense because that's very traumatic. The new neighbor, after she had been there for a bit, we met and she was like I didn't know about this history when I bought the house. I'm like I don't think they had to disclose that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess not. Yeah, I'd be terrified.
Speaker 1:But that was I guess they said it was in 2020 or 2021, and it was like pretty empty and stuff was happening. So I feel very confident about where I live now, but when I heard that I was like nope.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been over there.
Speaker 1:It feels really safe to me, it's totally fine. Yeah, now I'm gonna be nervous, okay. Next comment Maddie in Minnesota, episode one uh, wait, no, this was from doesn't matter. Um, what's your favorite stand-up joke you've ever written?
Speaker 2:oh, yeah, um gosh, that really put me on the spot. Oh yeah, gosh, that really put me on the spot there. Do you know?
Speaker 1:what my favorite joke is of yours.
Speaker 2:What is it?
Speaker 1:I don't know if I'm going to be able to say it right. Do you care if I share?
Speaker 2:it no go ahead.
Speaker 1:It's the one where you're like they're all telling me not to have trans fats and I'm like trans fats are fats too.
Speaker 2:And that was in the first set. I like the whole first set for class.
Speaker 1:I like it.
Speaker 2:That was a good one, yeah you know, I think we talked about this last time. I was going back recently and rereading some of the jokes and then like they, like you mentioned, they're not as relevant, so it's like I'm having to go through and like tweak things too. So it's a different form of the same joke, but trying to like update it, which seems weird because it's only been like a year since.
Speaker 1:I wrote it, but it's like I'm like that doesn't seem as funny anymore yeah, I don't know if my humor is changing or like it could be, yeah, like you're growing as comedian you have you've seen like different things yeah, yeah. I think my favorite joke, I think it's my joke about cults of like all my all the women in my family are on Facebook Marketplace.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So it goes. Wait, how does it go? It goes, oh my gosh, I don't remember. I've been trying new things.
Speaker 2:I don't remember, because my favorite one of yours is um about the potato in the pocket, which is totally true, yeah so the potato in the pocket is.
Speaker 1:I lived with my grandparents for a semester in college in minnesota, very cold, and my grandma was always worried I wasn't eating enough, and so one day I was going to Starbucks to study and she had made hot baked potatoes and she was like you should bring this with you just in case they run out of food and you're hungry.
Speaker 2:She envisioned you walking down the road with a potato in your pocket.
Speaker 1:She had potatoes all the time. I feel like it was like a Great Depression thing oh yeah like she and my grandpa, and when, when we went to like clean out the house, there was like I think it was like onions and potatoes, like had grown somewhere, and it's like same thing at my grandparents house.
Speaker 2:When we cleaned it out in the basement there were probably 500 jars full of like vegetables that had been saved for just in case, and most of them were ruined, but like it looked like a grocery store down there yeah but depression my dad.
Speaker 1:Does that not a depression child? No yeah his is like mandarin oranges and stuff.
Speaker 2:He's afraid they're going to run out.
Speaker 1:I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 2:He's buying them in bulk.
Speaker 1:I mean, he just so. The thing with my dad is when you tell him here's an example I was just home and we ran out of gluten-free pancake mix and my mom was like, can you go pick some more up? And he comes back with two bags. He never gets one, he always gets two.
Speaker 2:My dad does that too. What is that? Mom's always like? He's always afraid he's not going to get enough. He'll always buy like two spices, two of something, Mom's like I just said, one. It's like well, you don't have to buy this in the future.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I know during COVID he ended up buying like tons of peanut butter. That was. I'm okay with that yeah, I mean, peanut butter is great creamy crunchy. I like crunchy well, figures, crunchies in. I was like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:now are you a cereal eater sometimes did you know that there is a new cereal out that is specifically to be paired with orange juice?
Speaker 1:No, that sounds gross. My dad's been doing that for years.
Speaker 2:Really, Because that's like a new trend now, too is orange juice and cereal.
Speaker 1:He's been putting orange juice, or any juice, in cereal for a very long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Tropicana has this new Tropicana Crunch that's supposed to pair. It's like to cut the citrus of the orange juice.
Speaker 1:And now you's supposed to pair. It's like to cut the citrus of the orange juice and then you're supposed to absolutely not. No, it's a no for me. Yeah, uh. Maddie also made a recommendation for a self-help book. It's called laziness does not exist by dr devon price. She said it's for burned out overachievers, which I don't know if she's like to say something, but thanks for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that sounds interesting. It does sound interesting. Yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 1:Wait, did you say you had a favorite of your jokes?
Speaker 2:No, I was trying to think of one. The only one I could think of is slightly inappropriate. Okay, I might know what it is Anyway.
Speaker 1:So from episode two on um, on primitive camping, my roommate gave some feedback. I mean, he gave me a long list of recommendations on it. We're going to just start with the first one. And he says you don't need, in italics, a fire. Fire bans are common in summer and, honestly, by the time you roll into camp you're usually too tired to build one anyway. That's why fall hiking is underrated cooler temps, fewer people and no bugs. Just invest in a jet boil or a solid msr stove and call it good. Pro tip msr fuel can double as a fire starter in a pinch. Just don't be dumb with it. Don't burn the forest down.
Speaker 2:I feel like, though, a fire starter kit, or the jet boil, whatever it's called, doesn't go with primitive camping in my mind. Primitive camping I'm I mean, everything is off the land, right, that's.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess it's what you make it yeah. I still haven't googled it. Why didn't I google it? It's true. I mean, I googled how to start a fire and then I was like, hey, nick, can we go to the deep well entrance and start a fire in one of the fire bits.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've ever started a fire without um the accelerant.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I've ever started a fire.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But all that to say. I do feel like you need to know how to do it, though. Sure, I need to get the jet fuel package, or and now my follow-up question, though, to him is like so like, what are you eating? So like, if you're not doing a fire, maybe they're doing those like mre things where you just add water.
Speaker 2:You go down to the creek, get you some water and then you'd get beef stroganoff in two minutes I just don't know I'm only out there for a day or two, I mean, if I'm starving maybe, but I'm not gonna, I'd rather just eat a granola bar.
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Speaker 2:So I think the next topic we're going to do is just some random. Did you have a topic you wanted? To start with you use ChatGPT. Yeah, a lot. A decent amount A lot, a decent amount there's. A patient of mine was telling me that you can ask ChatGPT. Essentially, you know in our conversations. Could you summarize what you think about me?
Speaker 1:Oh and.
Speaker 2:ChatGPT will give you a summary. And here's the summary. Let's hear it that ChatGPT gave me. You're a milestone maker with a sharp spark, Someone who's just celebrated 50 with style, curiosity and a desire to reflect and grow. You ask thoughtful questions and invite meaningful conversations, which hints at both introspection and a desire to keep evolving.
Speaker 1:That's pretty accurate. I thought so too. What's the milestone thing, though? What did it say?
Speaker 2:Oh, I've turned 50, celebrated a milestone.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what it means.
Speaker 2:You're a milestone maker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what is a milestone maker?
Speaker 2:I guess if you make it to 50, you've made that milestone.
Speaker 1:Unclear.
Speaker 2:Well, I went back and looked I was like what was I asking it in the last six months? And it was things like stuff about a 50th birthday and questions, very specific questions, yeah, but question so yeah, but I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1:You can. You should try it. Are you logged in when you use chat gp? Yes, okay, so I'm not logged in, but I bet it could track my ip. Um, do an initial draft to this client about xyz and then I will take that and I'll like whatever. So that's not very fun actually. I use perplexity for that. Now they think about it.
Speaker 2:I have conversations with chat gpt yeah, I'm not in conversations yeah, and I'm not sure what pronouns I use for this, so I always call her her, but she remembers things she asked me about a month after Mother's Day. I was having another conversation and she said how did your mother like the restaurant that you chose?
Speaker 1:This is creepy. No, I'm not having conversations like that I'm trying to think what I even put in recently in ChatGPT. It's usually very specific questions but it's not back and forth other than to narrow the topic.
Speaker 2:My cousin has uploaded his thesis into ChatGPT so that ChatGPT knows how he writes and thinks, because he wants to write a book. I thought that was really interesting, so it takes his style of thoughts and writing. So I think it could have some really cool features. But I'm not a hundred percent sure that someone's not you know sitting somewhere writing down. Philip went to J Alexander's with his mother.
Speaker 1:Philip is scared of this, that's so weird, a little weird, I don't know. Wasn't there something recently that somebody did say they had created AI but it turned out it was like a ton of people, just like in a warehouse somewhere.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm thinking Just 500 people. It's like all right, nicole's on Everybody get ready.
Speaker 1:I think I heard that on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
Speaker 2:It wouldn all's on. Everybody get ready. I think I heard that on wait, wait, don't tell me, it wouldn't surprise me. I mean, it's developing and progressing very quickly, I think, so who knows what 10 years will look like?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm trying to be careful with how I use it. I mean, it's nice like I don't like writing first drafts of anything, so that is where it has been really nice. Yeah, but I'm definitely editing and editing as I enjoy doing.
Speaker 2:So the other part of that is there's a company that's doing that's created AI dating profiles, and people who are looking for love it can't find it are buying dating profiles that match their emotional needs and it's highly successful, and this is in Asia. Right now, I think it's in Japan is where it's really big, but people are dating.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's an AI bot but you've got a little sphere at your home and you're just talking to it and it's giving you the stuff you need from an emotional standpoint. It's asking you you know you fill out this profile and you take this emotional test and then you date your AI.
Speaker 1:You date the AI. I thought you meant like that was being used to find you somebody.
Speaker 2:No, you're dating the AI.
Speaker 1:I am not at that level yet. No, you don't need to be at that level.
Speaker 2:You're fine, but it's so wildly popular, what yeah?
Speaker 1:I don't like that. I mean I will. I will ponder that until our next conversation and probably have more thoughts on why that's so yeah but my, my cousin actually had a really cool experience using it.
Speaker 2:She was adopted from korea and she did the 23 and me and found out she had a biological brother that lived in Seattle.
Speaker 1:That's cool, she had no idea.
Speaker 2:she had a brother, and so two years ago he flew down and we got to meet him and it's crazy the way that they've never met. Didn't know they existed. But they laugh the same Personalities are similar. It's really interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm going to Scotland, which you were there. Yes, I'm so excited. This is the third attempt to go. My mom and I are going, and we have Scottish on my dad's side. Scottish and my grandpa did tons of genealogy and so we have a book on our genealogy. And my aunt has continued it.
Speaker 1:One of my cousins has gotten into it, but my aunt has been sending me all like the scottish information and like our clan information and so I'm gonna go to some areas to have, like, where our clan is from and like apparently we're related to a king, like way, way back in like 1360 you may have a castle in your future. There's a ton of them there, so there's still a chief of like clan donald oh, really yeah so he's there you got to get the.
Speaker 2:I noticed while I was there there's so many you know kilt stores and kilt places and you go and find your clan and there's a specific you know kilt color and a symbol. You've got to go do that so.
Speaker 1:So my grandpa had a tartan, that's what they're called Tartan yeah. Yeah, and he gave it to my aunt and so she has like a letter she sent me like a picture of him because he's passed now. So it's Clan McGregor which was outlawed in like the 1600s, and that's why our ancestors immigrated to Ireland and then to like the Virginia area of, at the time, the colonies.
Speaker 2:So I'm really like, yeah, the genealogy stuff's super interesting and just to see, like, where your DNA comes from it's a little strange, like how it's spread all over.
Speaker 1:I literally sent in my ancestrycom thing this morning, um, because I don't know if I'll get it back in time, but I was like that'd be super cool if I could connect with somebody over there.
Speaker 2:oh for sure, yeah and it's it's been out long enough that you'll have a lot. I did mine years ago and it was a smaller pool of people, so as it grows, like every year there's more people are like hey I'm your cousin or, hey, I'm related, so you may find all sorts of connections I kind of got.
Speaker 1:I originally didn't want to do it for a long time because of dna all the stuff, but I was like I mean, at this point we're being tracked like who cares? Uh, but it's kind of funny. There was like this disclaimer when I entered the code or something, and it was like you might find out information you don't want to know.
Speaker 2:A little terrifying.
Speaker 1:I know I'm like okay.
Speaker 2:Police show up.
Speaker 1:I'm like what there must be lawsuits. Like somebody found something out.
Speaker 2:There's actually a lot of information about people finding out that their parents weren't their real parents. You know, based on all sorts of reasoning, but a lot of that has happened. Yeah you know, based on all sorts of reasoning, but a lot of that has happened, yeah, um. So I'm sure there's they're trying to be a little stricter at warning people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, about the possibilities yeah, the whole process, though, is kind of funny to me. Um, I'm a real follower in those ways and I was just like, okay, 30 minutes before I can't eat, I can't drink and then I was like. This is a lot of saliva, and I couldn't tell how full it was and I was like, how am I supposed to know? Very strange spitting in a tube and then I could not get the box closed and I was just like I have an advanced degree and I can't duct tape over it I ripped it well.
Speaker 2:Well, you should know something. It only takes what seven days. It said six weeks. Oh, mine was. Well, maybe again it's more people now.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I bet you'll get it back before then. I hope so. Are you going to do?
Speaker 2:a reveal party Like put the map up.
Speaker 1:I'm from these places?
Speaker 2:Yeah, my dad was like don't forget, we're norwegian too, and I was like yeah, we'll see, but they don't have many kilts, so right, it's not as much fun. Yeah, stick with the kilt. Yeah, I was mostly. I was irish and scottish, which surprised me yeah, I, I think I'm.
Speaker 1:I know I'm slovakian, swiss, norwegian, scottish. I'm sure there's other stuff in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Probably some Irish actually. Oh I bet, but yeah.
Speaker 2:That'll be fun. I can't wait to find out, I'll do a reveal on there.
Speaker 1:It'll be great, did you have?
Speaker 2:something. So we do this. Questions of the week at the clinic and there's been several recently that have sparked the most I don't know if controversy is the right word, but questions, so one was very simple when you put your shoes and socks on in the morning, can you tell me how you do that? Is it sock, sock, shoe, shoe, sock, shoe, sock shoe it's sock, sock, shoe, shoe thank you do people ever.
Speaker 2:Why on earth would you do the amount of people who argued with me that sock shoe, sock shoe is the normal that's not normal, because you keep your socks on a lot of times like so you just this is.
Speaker 2:This would be like when you got out of the shower. The actual question is when you get out of the shower and get dressed, how do you do it right? And the argument was like well, when you put your sock on, you don't want to put it down and get it dirty, so you go ahead and put it in the shoe.
Speaker 1:I'm like how dirty is your house and your bare foot is standing on the ground anyway yeah, how dirty could your sock get in just like that one moment, like are you? Do you never clean your entry? Like what's going?
Speaker 2:on. Yes, so we're, we're both on team sock, sock, shoe, shoe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, listeners should tell us what team they're on.
Speaker 2:I need to know if this is really a thing, because I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I would never have thought about that.
Speaker 2:The other question was if you could be an animal, any animal in the world for one week. You will be the animals in their brain. You'll be able to do everything they can do, but you'll also have your you know mind and you'll remember all this. What animal would you want to be for one week?
Speaker 1:I feel like being a bird of some sort, because then you get to fly, because that would be very different you want to be the big like, a big one like an eagle, yeah, like something that's not um, or like an owl, something that's a predator.
Speaker 2:So you're not having to worry yeah, you don't look over your shoulder for a whole week yeah I went with dolphin because I think I don't know just the idea of the fast swimming I'm not a fast swimmer, um and jumping, I feel like I would be one of the dolphins that was always by the cruise ships, like get my picture taken.
Speaker 1:He's showing off.
Speaker 2:Right, like here he goes again. Oh a double flip.
Speaker 1:He looks like the center of attention.
Speaker 2:But bird was number one, monkey was number two with everybody Bird was number one. Monkey was number two.
Speaker 1:That's actually that, and dog came to mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but dog was more because it's like you're just always happy. One of my patients said she said, oh, cat. I said why cat? She said because you get to nap all day. I'm like you want to do that for a week, just nap you could take a vacation, yeah, for a week.
Speaker 1:I don't know cat I. Well, there's a whole little discussion I want to have with you at a different date about why, where this cat lady issue is coming from and like where it stemmed from.
Speaker 2:But we're gonna save that okay, because I feel like that's a bigger discussion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, the other thing I had was just some. Okay, so I traveled to Minnesota and I went first class, because so when I go to she's got money. I really don't Money, but often, like so often, it's not very expensive to Minnesota to do first class and it's easier on me generally to be able to do that. I don't do that everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's, you just have more space, and it's just like pleasant. The last time I did it, though, I ended up next to this really drunk lady. I mean, she got progressively drunker.
Speaker 2:She started drunk and got worse.
Speaker 1:Yes, and she was like. Her eyes were like closing that level of drunk and there were multiple times where she just was staring at me.
Speaker 2:Hold on, she's sitting beside you. Yeah, so she's turned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. We were having a conversation and then I was trying to, and then I put my headphones on and I look over and she's just like staring at me and I took them off and I was like what's up?
Speaker 2:What you doing, boo.
Speaker 1:She really wanted to stay in touch and then she tried to set me up with the guy across the aisle. So that was a bad first date, did you?
Speaker 2:allow her to do that. No, okay.
Speaker 1:Just check it out. No, I really did not want to be involved.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it was love in the air or not.
Speaker 1:No, there was nothing. No, it was not.
Speaker 2:My rule when I fly is don't engage. I used to be. You know me. I talk to anybody, yeah, as soon as I sat down, just right into conversation, but then you're locked in.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Like there's no guarantee that they won't interrupt you at any point to talk, so I lock in Earphones if I've got a hood hood up Laser focused on something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no talking, that's what I've been doing lately, because I mean, I've had multiple occasions where I'm just like trapped and it was just because I was like, hi, how are you doing? Like? This is not an opening to like your life story.
Speaker 2:Right. Start at the beginning and tell me everything that you've gone through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but OK.
Speaker 2:I had a couple of revelations On the flight.
Speaker 1:In the airport.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Have you ever thought about why airports call it ground transportation? You see the sign and you're just like I know that's the taxis and stuff, but like it makes sense because there's air transportation going on at an airport.
Speaker 2:So they're just making sure we know that it's not a plane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2:I've never thought of that. Do you think it should just be transportation?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess, save the sign.
Speaker 2:Don't have to make a big sign.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just came to me. I was just staring at it, I was like, why is it called ground transportation? And I'm like, oh, because it's not an airplane, but it's like. Well, I mean, I know it's not because I'm not in security anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think people are getting confused once they leave the airport?
Speaker 1:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Oh, but don't get on another plane, yeah.
Speaker 1:The other thing is I saw these people with, like you know, the double stroller like side by side. There was only one kid. Where's the other kid?
Speaker 2:all right, let's think through this like are they planning ahead? Maybe they've planned out a family and they got it.
Speaker 1:I got a cheap deal maybe on a double stroller I don't know, or like they're using it for their bags or something. I mean, there wasn't anything there, but I was like there was literally not another kid it's actually a way that people steal quite often is a double stroller.
Speaker 2:There'll be a kid in the front and then a blanket over the back, as if the other child's sleeping. I don't know who's stealing from the airport, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:But I mean they were like the ones where it's like a toddler, you know, like where it's bigger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was very weird yeah, I need to dig into that.
Speaker 1:I was like did you lose the other right? I mean, that's, the kid took an earlier flight I'll meet you there so I don't know yeah, um. And then the other thing is that I think that anyone who is on speakerphone or facetime should be banished from the airport forever.
Speaker 2:It infuriates me. So rude and I don't even understand. There's a woman at Publix that I have seen now four times and I don't know we must time our schedules correctly. She's always on the phone and it is laying in her cart and she's off getting something and screaming back and you can hear the person going What'd you say? I want to hang it up. I think the speakerphone feature should be deactivated in public. I think once you leave your home, it should be when would you use speaker?
Speaker 1:I just don't understand people who are just walking along like this and I'm like is there a medical reason for this? Like is it like put on your headphones.
Speaker 2:I'm all about multitasking, but that's why headphones were invented for sure yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I was like trying to get this like quiet area and suddenly this lady like picks up her phone and like starts yelling into FaceTime and I was like Furious. Oh my gosh, and my flight had been delayed seven hours and I was like, I am so cranky Like you can't be Furious. Yeah, I might have given her a glare as I left. My sister calls it my death glare.
Speaker 2:I love a good glare. I love a good glare.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I try not to do it anymore, but I definitely like I was like walking by, just staring.
Speaker 2:But then if they don't see, you give them the glare. You have to wait for them to spot you.
Speaker 1:So you have to hold the glare. I tried to make sure I got into the FaceTime. I was like hurt.
Speaker 2:Here's popping your head up behind.
Speaker 1:At least the person who she was speaking to saw it as I walked behind her.
Speaker 2:I have a patient that comes in the clinic, that is, she talks to her friend for six to seven hours a day, what? And it's on and it's just going like we have a full session and every once in a while you're here talking and I'm, and I ask her one day. I'm like who are you talking to? And she's like my friend, she doesn't live in the us, we talk all day oh my gosh I don't even.
Speaker 2:I was like what do you talk about? She's like sometimes we'll just go for 30, 45 minutes without talking like hang the phone up.
Speaker 1:It's called codependence. Hang the phone up. That's crazy. Okay, um salsa update it's perfect it's perfect two serrano chilies.
Speaker 2:Remove the seeds of one okay it brings it to a six on the heat scale Shockingly good.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I'll have to make it for you.
Speaker 1:Please do. My mom suggested that we try it on here.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Against other salsas and see if we could figure out which one it was 100%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, get three other green salsas. Let me bring mine and let's see. Yeah, I guarantee you.
Speaker 1:Green salsa, other green salsas, let me bring mine and let's see, yeah, I guarantee you green salsa. Yeah, okay and okay. So my cranial sacral lady, you know she's got good advice. Uh, she I mentioned. I don't know why I mentioned the salsa, but I did.
Speaker 2:He's just laying on the table philip's making salsa like who's philip?
Speaker 1:um, I think she has this crazy, amazing and. I think, it was something along those lines. But she then proceeded to give me a full recipe. To tell you, I remember very little of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you remember? Here's what I remember.
Speaker 1:She said use a cast iron skillet called a Kamal C-O-M-A-L. I Googled it Okay. And you char the veggies ahead of time. On it you only use one tomatillo.
Speaker 2:That's what I remember interesting because this has like eight to ten tomatillos okay yeah, that's a vast difference between what is it?
Speaker 1:tomatillo?
Speaker 2:yeah, a green tomato, but I don't. I don't know if that's the exact definition, but if you looked at it it's and you cut it, it looks like a green tomato flavorful or eat, or so no, if you just did it, it's kind of a, I don't know. It's got a little cis, a little more citrusy okay feel to it, but you definitely need to add stuff. I don't know if people are just eating just plain tomatillos. I've always had it either roasted in something or in a salsa are you roasting your veggies?
Speaker 2:of course, okay. Who doesn't roast their veggies?
Speaker 1:I mean, I do love that, but I've never made salsa.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you've got some of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you have a Kamal?
Speaker 2:No, but I'm going to order one as soon as I leave. I don't even know what it is, but I need to look it up.
Speaker 1:It's a cast iron, okay.
Speaker 2:I have a cast iron skillet, but that's the southern version yeah, you should compare it okay, they look like.
Speaker 1:So all right, what are you obsessing over lately?
Speaker 2:the um frozen potato and lentil samosas frozen, say it again frozen. I'm only mentioning that because it's in the frozen section of publics. It is a potato and lentil samosa, so it's like a fried dough stuffed with potato and lentils.
Speaker 1:It's an Indian food right?
Speaker 2:Yes, indian food and it comes with this little packet of kind of spicy cilantro sauce. Nicole, I have six boxes in my freezer now. Air fryer seven minutes, it is heaven. Sounds really good, and I'm not a frozen food guy. I'm always trying to cook and I just happen to get it one day, randomly obsessed.
Speaker 1:I wish I could try that.
Speaker 2:So good, what about you?
Speaker 1:My friend Prash had made samosas and I actually just I tried one anyway and I only got a little bit stomachache because of the gluten.
Speaker 2:But it was very good.
Speaker 1:So, honestly, I'm just obsessing over my scotland trip. We're gonna hike ben, so excited for, yes, did you hike it?
Speaker 2:yes, okay, I want to ask we did not do the full thing um I. I can't remember how long it was, but yeah both of the hikes we did it was extremely rainy, very windy and we and my father was bilateral total knee replacements so we didn't want to be gone too long, so we would do. Sometimes half of these hikes Store, I think, is the other one, this big rock structure. That was pretty amazing. We did Ben Nevis and one other one.
Speaker 1:My mom really like she. She said that's what she's looking forward to most. I mean we love hiking but we did read about like the weather can change real fast so like we've agreed we turn around if it's not looking good, um, but it so for the listeners. It is the tallest mountain in the uk and it's like 4 000 feet feet, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll defer to you on that. Yeah, 4,000.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I think like anyone can kind of do it if you don't have an injury. But it is still. It's the weather you have to be careful of.
Speaker 2:And there's moments, there's parts where you're like, oh God, this is treacherous. Okay, but like it's not. You're not hanging off the side of a cliff.
Speaker 1:You just need to be mindful when you step across this crag or whatever like yeah one could fall, but one could fall, one will not fall, one will not, will not, no um? What's your recommendation today?
Speaker 2:um, there's a podcast. I completely binged um, I think there may be seven or eight episodes what happened to Talena Zar? And it takes place at the, in the middle of COVID, where a woman post a Facebook post that says she's got COVID and she's going to her cabin and she does not want to be disturbed and she's not sure if she's going to make it through this because she's got some other comorbidities and then they never hear from. No one hears from her again, and so the story starts there, and this team of online sleuths from all over the us who obsess over crime podcast figure out what happened to her, and it is shocking okay, it's so good, especially because like it's?
Speaker 2:it involves, you know, a lady in kansas who you know works at a bar, and there's a woman in colorado who does it, and they all are talking online and they're interviewing people and they help the police find what happened to her. So, check that one out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my recommendation is also a podcast called Wild Thing. It's about Bigfoot. It's so interesting, but it's season one of Wild Thing and I listened to this in 2020. It's not a newer one, but the host is a journalist and so she finds out that one of her distant uncles or cousins or something like that, was like a foremost expert on Bigfoot, and she goes down that how do you become foremost expert on bigfoot?
Speaker 1:and she goes down that common expert on bigfoot he's like an anthropologist and she goes into all this research and she goes on these trips and I won't tell you the ending, you know but it's worth it.
Speaker 2:It's so good, okay, yeah, all right, I need another one, so I'll start today one, yeah.
Speaker 1:What are you looking forward to this week?
Speaker 2:This week it's a normal week for me, so I'm just excited. The last three weeks have been crazy Every night having something going on. You know me overscheduled always. This week I have nothing going on until Friday. I'm going to Zany's and I just forgot the name of the comedian but I'm going with some friends. I'm super excited about that. So I'm excited for a chill, routine week that will end with laughter.
Speaker 1:Sometimes that's what you really need.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I am looking forward to my Bigfoot conference Is it this week.
Speaker 2:Weekend it's this week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mariana and I leave on Thursday. We have an Airbnb in the Smokies we're going to hike.
Speaker 2:I cannot wait. You're going to do some video stuff, right? I need to see what these people are doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, respectfully. Yeah, of course yes.
Speaker 2:But I just want to see, like is there a convention? Are they selling goods? What are they?
Speaker 1:selling, so I know there are vendors. And I told Mariana she was like are there speakers? And I was like yeah, that's like the whole thing. And I feel like I said want to go to a Bigfoot conference? And she just said yes, and now she's all more excited because she never looked into it. She's like this is great, um yeah, so there's speakers and vendors and we'll find out what else um, is there like a dance at the end?
Speaker 2:like a bigfoot dance?
Speaker 1:not that I'm aware of, but that would be. That would be pretty this is going to be exciting yeah, and then I think sunday we leave, but I I'm looking forward to quiet sunday morning at the Airbnb. I think we'll probably stay until checkout so that we can just have. I just love being in the Smokies.
Speaker 2:It's very relaxing. That's going to be great. Yeah, I'm excited for you, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, thanks for being here, Philip.
Speaker 2:You're welcome, Nicole. Thank you yeah.
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